Talked to Jeff for a while about being politically active (17:35), the fight-or-flight response to adversity (25:45), (finally) getting reviewed on Pitchfork (30:10), what records he's enjoyed in 2016 (36:30), and what he's up to in the coming months (39:15).

Bands who released records in 2016 that Jeff really liked: Diners, Chris Farren, Roar, Martha, The Frightnrs, Mitski, Big Thief, Angel Olsen, and Oathbreaker.

Also, listen to Good Luck and Classics of Love if you haven't yet.

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